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| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 03/15/2012 : 4:35:11 PM
Could THIS be the replacement for the iPad and Apples proprietary death grip on the world?
( $80 for an iPad cover? Are you F******* kidding me? )
Watch these - (AWESOME!)
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/in-game/46725951/#46596539
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/in-game/46725951/#46564661
Chris Betzer says:
I am so happy I have been teaching Alden windows and programming over the years. We entered the IT world and we have great jobs and we support one group of Windows devices, those in a business. Now as he enters an entire new world for IT and knowing what I know about Azure and Cloud Applications, add the value Windows 8 is bringing? I know he is going to be fine and make a great living.
The world is going to see a change. There is a major push into what is called, BYOD, or Bring Your Own Device. I do not buy into this as much as I see the typical business model of the employer is going to give you a device that become even more personal. One that you can take home and while you are off network, the employer can provide you with a logon that lets you run in a virtual personal....
Windows 8 install that while logged into it you can install and use the hardware for personal games or whatever. When you go back into work, that virtual Windows 8 desktop is disabled as you connect to the business network.
That is what Windows 8 needs to provide, a way that a business can give an employee a perk of having a device they can use for personal use and have control of installing personal applications in an OS that lets you move it from machine to machine with the cloud being the method to make it all happen.
Now if Russinovich could see this and IF the Enterprise Version of windows 8 would allow for this virtual OS to be configured, that would be a very cool trick, and when it crosses from XBox, tablet and laptop/desktop like a profile, This will usher in a new era of the technology world.
Our handheld devices are getting so powerful that we could have one device that plugs into a keyboard, mouse and monitor at home, work and on the go. I would sign up for a cloud service in a second to store stuff across all.
Only if I had a billion $ to make it…
I agree with Chris 100%. I think we are on the beginning of some very exciting times.
Oh by the way, http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=MSFT I am ready to buy...
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| FelixS |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 06:19:42 AM
i do because i want to root my flyer and use it with windows. I hope its possible in the future: ) |
| Jazzy |
Posted - 03/27/2012 : 05:58:58 AM
And for how long would that be then? We're using the current interface since august '95, I think that's pretty long. |
| mitachu |
Posted - 03/27/2012 : 05:55:25 AM
Personally, I sometimes wish Microsoft would just stick to an interface and stop buggering around with it.
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| Btil Entrails |
Posted - 03/24/2012 : 6:10:15 PM
Just looked up and read about that slate you are using. I think that Microsoft needs to coin a new word... Tablet+, and define it as a Tablet that is more than a consumption device or media device being sold today. |
| joe_elway |
Posted - 03/22/2012 : 4:01:13 PM
I have one of the Build slate PCs. It's similar to the Samsung Series 7, but has smaller SSD and more sensors in it. |
| Btil Entrails |
Posted - 03/22/2012 : 3:14:22 PM
Which device are you using as a touch device with Windows 8, Aidan?
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| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 03/22/2012 : 12:11:04 PM
I like to say that Windows Server “8” is a transformational release. We stopped thinking of ourselves as an OS for an individual server and started thinking of ourselves as an OS equally suited for a single server or a cloud using lots of servers.
Jeffrey Snover, Windows Server
http://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/ |
| joe_elway |
Posted - 03/22/2012 : 06:57:14 AM
I remember bitching about Windows "Fischer Price" XP back when it came out. Everything had moved, been renamed, etc. My first deployment was in a small government office (from Win 98). I came in the following morning, readying myself for the barrage of hatred from the users ... they LOVED it. What we admins expect isn't what users want. To some extent there is an amount of wait and see.
I love Win 8 on a touch device. I find it very natural and quick. I have my reservations about the keyboard/mouse devices, but I find the beta easier to use than the DevPrev release. I'm getting used to it.
I've a funny feeling that app developers might drive the deployment in business. Developing a mobile app that works on tablet, PC, and phone (Windows 8 phones on the way apparently) then there's the business case, IMO. |
| Btil Entrails |
Posted - 03/21/2012 : 6:15:47 PM
Slam, kick, bitch, whine and complain... Did I just say that out loud with my outdoor voice?
Every time a new OS version comes out under the name of Windows, we continue to compare the changes. For me, to compare Windows NT / Windows 9X of long ago and then all the rest in the last 15 years, well to compare all those versions of Windows, it was fitting as the target hardware was all the same.
This time around the hardware is not the same and the OS is not the same for 100% of what needs to be considered, but we are finding ways to compare and this time around I find it time bring this to an end. People are buying iPads, and no one is bitching that they are not with a start menu and loving it and if you have not noticed, users want to use these things in a corporate network and this crap is not secure to even consider it. I could go on about all the other issues of the Apple iOS products and the crap I deal with in supporting them in schools, but that is not my point for making this post.
I am the one that Tim started the post about and with and is from an IM conversation we had. I work for a company by day and I support 2 schools with my best friend and guess what boys and girls, the world is changing with these new users we will have in the next couple of years. So let’s put the IM conversation into context on what Tim and I were talking about and what got this thread started.
Tim and I had been talking about the changes and the fact that our kids are driving the change. For me, my son Alden wants to work in IT and will have his CCNA done as he exits High School this year. My son is planning to do his 4 years of college, and when he enters the workforce in 4 years, it is going to be very exciting and challenging for him and with Windows 8 being an OS that can be on all platforms or gadget, what a time for him to be enter the IT workforce. IF this one OS for all hardware takes off, he is going to be entering the IT world of support as if it is a ground floor experience and he will get to live the entire thing as it is happening. I find this to be cool and look forward to talking and sharing IT war stories with my son, 10 years from now.
My opinion of Metro, I like others am looking for Microsoft to let me decide when it is being used or not used. But if we had Metro in the Tablet version of Windows XP, would that hardware and OS be leading the pack in tablets today and not the iPad? I bought a Toshiba Tablet and it has the Tablet XP OS on it, and if you want to hate, well that was an OS and hardware marriage to hate….
I look forward to getting a tablet with Windows 8.
//Chris
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| jadgate |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 2:07:46 PM
Saw this link on Susan Bradley's website (its a Utube video)
It sums up the Windows 8 experience for the gray-haired mere mortals amongst us...
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2012/03/12/quot-how-do-i-go-back-quot.aspx
I still have my 85 year Mother on XP. I've thought about moving her to Windows 7 but I am in no hurry. I just got her to adjust to a new color laser printer, and the Windows 7 interface has enough new twists to take some getting used to.
While Windows 8 is clearly aimed at the mobile device market, it is not a compelling upgrade for me at this point, unless it has better default security than Android phones do (which isn't hard).
Later,
Jim |
| DennisMCSE |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 11:38:56 AM
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Originally posted by wobble_wobble
Why oh why, and I'm guessing its dues to Beta/ RC or whatever they call it and can be turned off/ disabled, do you need a Metro interface on a Server.....
Joe, it's so you can keep track of your Facebook friends and Twitter feeds from your Contact list while troubleshooting the server. lol
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| wobble_wobble |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 11:23:55 AM
Why oh why, and I'm guessing its dues to Beta/ RC or whatever they call it and can be turned off/ disabled, do you need a Metro interface on a Server..... |
| DennisMCSE |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 10:42:38 AM
The other thing I was wondering about Windows 8 since the interface will be consistent across devices. If you buy the PC application, will you be able to install the application on your tablet and phone as well? Or will you have to buy a license for each device? With the Apple products, if I buy the app for the iPad, I can install it on my iPod Touch as well (a Universal app). I have to buy a separate app for my Macbook Pro, but that's because the OS is different.
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| DennisMCSE |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 10:38:00 AM
It will definately be a game changer since it will be a consistent interface regardless of the device you are using (PC, tablet, slate, phone, etc.). It's just going to take a little getting used to. People who are already using the Windows Phone, will be used to it quicker, since they will have used the Metro interface. For others, it will take some playing around. But that's no different than people moving from Windows XP to Windows 7, then trying to figure out where everything got moved to (like how to access NIC settings). But then again, Vista is the same interface as Windows 7, but it was different enough from Windows XP that a lot of people bypassed Vista and waited for Windows 7.
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| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 09:42:05 AM
I am very happy with WIN 7. 2008 R2 is fine too, but from what I heard from Mark and Aidan Server 8 is what I think is really going to be a game changer. |
| DennisMCSE |
Posted - 03/20/2012 : 09:34:10 AM
I just installed Win8 on my Macbook Pro as a VM. The new interface is a bit confusing at first trying to figure out how to switch between the Metro interface and the old Desktop interface. Then it threw me off that there was no Start button. Need to pull out some documentation. I definately know my end users are going to have and issue, so no rush to upgrade.
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| RobertB |
Posted - 03/19/2012 : 8:54:16 PM
I am the IT manager in a K-12 school division. Unless they provide me the ability to kill the metro interface thru GP or something similar OR be able to show users how to switch to the Win7 format permanently (for their profile), for me to install this upgrade would end up being a RGE (resume generating event) as my users would rebel. I installed the CP on an Inpsiron One computer, 23 inch touch screen and got a fairly average user (still above average for the majority of users in my environment) and they were lost. They eventually got a little used to it but I asked how it would go over if we switched, they figured at least 2-3 months training and we "MIGHT" be able to get away with it.
For tablets/phones, it looks very nice. Desktops I am still not sold, maybe for home but for the enterprise I am adopting a wait and see approach. |
| NMDANGE |
Posted - 03/16/2012 : 09:23:31 AM
I've read a ton of negative comments on the new metro design. All they have to do to appease these ppl is give them the option of turning the old start menu back on, and not requiring the metro start screen. They can argue about how the start screen is better in every way, but so many people don't like change.
I see a lot of people staying on Windows 7 for a long time. But I still agree with Microsoft's choices, except for not giving the option for the old start menu. |
| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 03/15/2012 : 4:46:01 PM
FYI, Alden is Chris's son who is graduating from HS this year... |
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