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| aval |
Posted - 03/26/2012 : 2:22:25 PM
Assuming you do not already work with it in production, for a real company, how would you go about learning this?
Could you just register a domain name, create a domain at home, sign up for Exchange Online at so many dollars a month and then provision mailboxes online for your domain users and manage them through AD FS?
A couple months ago, I was watching a series of Technet videos on Office 365 (Exchange interesting me the most). I think there is a certificate to be purchased and I'm not sure if it's the kind you could get at Go Daddy for $60.
And would having a non-static address at home be an issue?
While I too am tired hearing about the "Cloud", I think that for some organizations, it may not make much sense to set up Exchange in-house. I want to be able to manage both setups, or a hybrid setup.
It remains to be seen how this would best be achieved. |
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| Jazzy |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 05:27:19 AM
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Originally posted by aval
Yes, but I doubt it addresses the case of a home test network with a DHCP assigned IP and the possibility of not being able to send outbound mail on port 25.
It doesn't, but it makes the concepts and traffic between your and theirs datacenter more clear so that you can understand the impact of a dynamic IP address. When you look at the network diagram you will inderstand why you loose access to the cloud mailbox when your IP address changed. |
| wobble_wobble |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 05:12:37 AM
Not sure how it works in the US, but occasionally I've been known to statically set an IP and see what happens on the IP reassignment...worst thing that can happen is you have to reset you modem after the DHCP lease expires.
Another thing some of the systems use a pool where you get maybe 1 of 20 addresses.
DynamicDNS or NoIP.com are another option.
Technically, your not supposed to use a mail server on a residential account in this part of the world, but I've done it and gotten away with it, for limited periods of time.
Be aware, this does not work well, if you have a non technical partner, at home, who likes using the internet and is having a bad day... |
| aval |
Posted - 04/03/2012 : 9:16:19 PM
Yes, but I doubt it addresses the case of a home test network with a DHCP assigned IP and the possibility of not being able to send outbound mail on port 25.
Joe has some good points - use 587 through some sort of relay.
As for inbound though... if that IP is changing.
Otherwise...
No, unfortunately, I do not work for a MS Partner. |
| Jazzy |
Posted - 03/29/2012 : 01:57:32 AM
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Originally posted by aval
If I want to practice the hybrid scenario (or Exchange in general interacting with the outside world), how would that work?
Did you use the Exchange Deployment Assistent already, I guess not. :) |
| wobble_wobble |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 7:34:16 PM
If your ISP blocks outbound SMTP, check if they block outbound secure SMTP 587.
Then if necessary you can send outbound email through a secured relay.
To get access to a domain, DNS records and a secure relay, buy a Google domain (10$ a year) and that will allow you get a FQDN and control of DNS records.
Then set up your MX, A etc for the home connection.
Then your almost there. All you need is the O365 account.
David, if you work for a MS Partner, bother your MS Partner manager for a freebie account on O365, its what I did and do (Thanks Barbara!)
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| aval |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 6:03:43 PM
What about my home connection - which uses a dynamically allocated IP address provided by my ISP?
If I want to practice the hybrid scenario (or Exchange in general interacting with the outside world), how would that work?
At some point, I would have to designate an IP address for the MX record (and reverse DNS probably).
My IP can change.
And then I'm not sure if my ISP will allow outbound SMTP traffic from a home account (business account is obviously different). |
| wobble_wobble |
Posted - 03/26/2012 : 3:02:21 PM
Sign up for a demo domain and go from there.
you can get 30 or 60 days free and if a MS Partner you can get a bit longer (need to sell some seats)
There is the MVA - https://www.microsoftvirtualacademy.com
They have 3 tracks on Office 365 and 3 on Azure SQL.
MS were going around doing the MS Partner Premier Office 365 training and handed out demo labs. Not sure if they are free to pass on, I'd need to ask.
I think the cert you speak about buying is necessary to upload mail from a staging mail server to Office 365. I know one is necessary for that.
After all of that, there is the Office 365 forums etc, but I didn't find them much use, it was Beta at the time and I have had no reason to go back.
The debate about hosting Exchange locally and in the Cloud, will be eternal. But from my old roles, dropping 30 to 40% of support calls to some other provider kinda sounds like sense to me!
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| Jazzy |
Posted - 03/26/2012 : 2:59:48 PM
Wow, that are quite a few questions. Let start with exploring the service. Visit www.office365.com and register for a trial account, this takes only a couple minutes and sets you up with 25 trial licenses for Office 365 suite of products. You don't need to use your own domain, Microsoft sets a customer domain name up for you: aval.onmicrosoft.com. You can choose your onmicrosoft.com domain during the registration process for the trial accounts.
With this trial account you can epxlore the administrative interfaces (Offic 365 admin portal, Office 365 Powershell Module, Exchange Control Panel, Exchange remote powershell). Also you can have a look at some of the Exchange migration options, like staged or cutover migration. You could add your own SMTP domain but don't have to.
When you need to setup a hybrid deployment with an on-premises Exchange 2003/2007/2010 environment it gets more complicated. Basically you install and configure ADFS and directory synchronisation and next install a Exchange 2010 hybrid server. You can use the Exchange Deployment Assistant to get an overview of this process. |
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