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| JamesNT |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:26:22 AM
OK, everyone, time for some final decisions.
1. Do we add a day to the front end for a couple of extra presentations? Before we answer that question, we need to know if our extra presenters are going to be there. One is Mr. Darren Mar-Elia (spelling?) and the other is Mr. Steve Riley. If we know both of them are going to be there, then adding an extra day will mean that first that is one more night in the hotel to pay for and one more day of the conference room to pay for ($250 per day). So the first question(s) to ask is this:
Darren, my friend, no pressure, but are you planning on attending and if so, do you wish to present?
Steve, my friend, no pressure, but are you planning on attending and if so, do you wish to present?
If all this turns out to be a yes, then that means the meeting will begin on May 2nd at 8am sharp. Our first presentation will begin at 8am sharp.
2. One of our esteemed members has brought up the idea of having a professional grade recording of our meeting made. I'd like to put this to a vote. HOWEVER, keep in mind that this is the Minasi Group Meeting which means Mark has final Veto power (and there is no 1/3 majority overrule). If we are going to have a professional recording, then that probably means everyone may want to dress up a little and keep the off loaded jokes down a bit.
So what say you all to a professional video of our meeting being made?
JamesNT |
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| clarinathan |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 05:20:27 AM
Hi,
Just to add my piece...
Regards the extra day then Yes Yes Yes!
It does make it a bit easier given the travel distance from the UK!
Regards the idea of 2 tracks, No No No!
I hate the idea of missing any of the sessions, TechEd was really annoying that way!
Regards the video, personally I would like my sessions to be recorded if nothing else so I can see how bad I am at speaking and learn from it! But as for a general video to give out, I am not so sure. I would suggest that having this become available would not be a great idea but I certainly would like it for personal use.
Finally, lets get the dates finalised and get the flights booked!
Cheers
Nathan |
| wobble_wobble |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 02:22:22 AM
Yes, some fixed dates would be nice. Then I can book flights and OK a room, are the prices for single or shared? As to the recording Mark has mentioned that he does make his living from speaking/ teaching in public. However well meaning a recording is it is still a recording, and I don't want to go against the boos here...he can delete my posts after all.
There are enough people here all with diverse interests and thankfully generous with their time, efforts and knowledge to either pass on some forgotten nugget, or verify a dusty memory. And from the interest generated form just the possibility of the meeting alone I'm sure that there will be threads about the topics covered at the meeting, just like I have some basic info about some of the other conventions that have occurred.
My vote is no recording, I have a pen and notebook, and a forum where I can ask the questions and get answers, and I haven't been asked for the subscription fee yet!
Oh and yes I'll be there, but is it Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday to Sunday?
Joe
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| ebrux |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 7:16:00 PM
Also....let's make a decision soon. Tickets just went below $300 today and that's a good price coming from the west coast.
Can't wait!! |
| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 7:03:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ebrux
I don't think Mark wants his presentations recorded:
http://web2.minasi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19444&whichpage=2
Not sure about the other presenters...
Me: I like the part of this Forum Meeting....where we MEET. If you record it, then what's the point?
I have formed some great friendships here on this Forum, and I'd like to have the opportunity to meet you all.
My $.02
I agree!
"Personally I wouldn't permit broadcasting my presentations. With all respect, folks, I make my living DOING those things and I can't do that if we're giving it away. Apologies, I hope you understand."
Mark
You just know that bad things will happen and there is nothing you can do about it once the genie is out of the bottle.
"its like having sex with Kobe Bryant....you can fight all you want but its,,, it's gonna happen"
Peter Griffin |
| ebrux |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 6:53:24 PM
I don't think Mark wants his presentations recorded:
http://web2.minasi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19444&whichpage=2
Not sure about the other presenters...
Me: I like the part of this Forum Meeting....where we MEET. If you record it, then what's the point?
I have formed some great friendships here on this Forum, and I'd like to have the opportunity to meet you all.
My $.02 |
| Curt |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 2:39:30 PM
We can edit it and turn it off as well.
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| jaxdave |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 1:23:51 PM
I see the video as an opportunity for our friends in other countries etc that just don't have the time or money to fly across the world for 5 days. If it evolves into a marketing tool or whatever for Mark and or Darren etc than Great! With that said I do like the idea of having one room and not break out into other sessions so to speak. |
| mikepiet |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 1:21:51 PM
I say YES to recording. How many of us have been to conferences before and forget the information not long after attending. Granted there is often power points or something to that effect, but really, c'mon. More often then not we attend a conference, digest for a few days, then get back to our jobs. 95% of the time forgetting that cool little tip or good question that someone asked.
I recently went to a SANS conference and decided to record it on my mp3 player that supported voice recording. Going over the slides while being able to listen to the recorded audio is great for being able to revisit the sessions.
And regarding the thoughts of not being able to be loose or natural with a camera there? Cmon, it's not like it's going on youtube.
I would gladly pay upwards of $200 to $300 for a recording of the event.
Michael |
| aed |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 1:21:17 PM
Curt,
I understand what you are trying to do but the reasons you give for making the vidoe are the same reasons I wouldn't want it filmed. This CD could potentiallly land in the hand of some future employer of mine. Therefore I'm more adpt to sit silently and watch rather than the informal and fun discussions we had last year.
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| Curt |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 1:07:05 PM
As for the video, I still say we should do it.
This is why.
It's called growing the customer base.
I have a new client guys. Very nice and mature IT dept. Like all of us they can use some help.
There is a link to a 2004 audio of Mark on Security from a conference. It seems like a Penton Publishing sponsered conference.
I emailed the fellow the link. He loved it. So I just got off the phone with him. He asked where he can get more. I told him about the CDs and the conferences.
He's sold.
So a video can do our friend and friends a really good turn in the sense of a marketing tool.
The tech community really needs the product of conference teaching.
So if you guys don't mind it would IMHO be good for Mark and Darren.
Now I would look like a blob in the picture so I am not so excited about that if you know what I mean, but others would look good.
So what do you say?
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| JamesNT |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 09:11:13 AM
Tim,
That's actually a very good point. Poor Nick, you know he had a whole week's worth of jet lag from the last time.
JamesNT |
| JSCLMEDAVE |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 08:39:04 AM
I think for our friends coming from across the pond, an extra day makes it a bit more worthwhile as well. |
| Xenophane |
Posted - 11/28/2006 : 03:47:44 AM
I agree with the no, to recording, and personally I would hate to miss something, because of 2 tracks...
So to sum it up
Being taped on camera = Negative
Me missing out on Darren's GPO talk = Negative
Staying there an extra day not to miss anything = Affirmative |
| dmarelia |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 11:28:48 PM
James-
Check with Mark directly on Steve. I doubt he lurks here.
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| JamesNT |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 11:24:03 PM
Darren,
Thank you, dear sir, for your willingness to do a presentation and for joining our little party.
Regarding the recording, no surprise there considering how laid back everyone was the last go around. However, it was still an idea worthy of everyone's consideration and I'll still take a moment to thank our friend to at least being willing to try.
Anyone heard from Steve?
JamesNT |
| Curt |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 9:04:44 PM
What loaded Jokes?
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| Curt |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 9:03:44 PM
Ok, here is my piece.
One track. We will get it all in.
Record it. Why? So Mark, and Darren and Steve can enjoy it and use it to "Make a living" if they want.
But WHOA to whoever trys to make a buck off a friend after they do that person a favor.
Whoa unto to him.
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| joe_elway |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 2:09:36 PM
I'm with Jim on this. One of the great things about last year was that we got to see things we wouldn't have otherwise. If I was at IT Forum/TechEd I'd steer clear of SBS. But I learned a lot about it from Nick during his well rehearsed and prepared presentation ;-) Plus, part of the plan is getting the gang together. Costs would also go up if we needed another room. |
| Polymath5 |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 1:42:40 PM
Darren. I'm so glad you will be presenting on GP. Your sessions at WinConn where great!
But, I don't like the idea of 2 tracks. I would much rather we all be together and not have to split off and decide what we want to see. That does make it too much like WinConn where you wind up missing something you want to see because of something else.
I would much rather have another day and see more of the great presenters than see one and hear how great the other was.
Just my $.02 |
| dmarelia |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 12:54:12 PM
James-
I will attend and I will present on Group Policy. But maybe, instead of adding another day for everyone, we could have two tracks, so that folks that wanted to see one or the other could choose? I realize that sounds like the big conferences but it may be a good alternative to making folks spend more time and money to be there.
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| jy1130 |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:48:55 AM
I have never been to a meeting before, but felt that I should put my 2 cents in anyway.
Granted I am also a "maybe" on attending.
I would have to say no on the recording as well. Mainly for what Aidan had to say. I would rather the atmosphere be relaxed and open. If I were to attend, being a "newbie," I would feel more comfortable asking questions and participating if I wasnt on camera.
I would want the meeting to feel like this forum, only in person rather than through cyberspace. Open and easy going. No one on this forum seems afraid to ask any question even though we know the answers are so simple. Fact is, some of us just dont know, and need some good guidance. I think having cameras and the like on site will take away from the atmosphere that I have grown to love here on this forum.
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| Polymath5 |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:43:16 AM
I vote NO to recording as well. Same reasoning as Aidan.
We need to know as soon as we can on the extra day. Need to get the rooms booked. I'm booked in on the 2nd now, if I we add the day we need the room blocks from the 1st. |
| joe_elway |
Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:33:44 AM
I'm a "No" on the recording.
Just changed my mind from "yes". I liked it just the way it was last year. People were unafraid to talk and we could just be ourselves. It was nice an open. I liked it that way rather than the traditional conference presentation, save your questions till the end style thing. I'd be afraid of it going down that road with recording gear present.
I'd be concerned for people who use their presentations for making a living.
Plus it'll add to the cost.
If Darren and Steve can make it then I'd deffo add a day at the front. |
