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chamezzzz
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Posted - 06/10/2010 :  08:08:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know Google does not get much love around these parts, I was tempted to buy the new Nexus One but at £350 on Ebay I can't afford it.
Instead, I discovered rooting and have rooted my HTC Magic to Android 2.1 Update 1.
I can't believe the improvement in my phone, more speed better applications. It is awesome.
One thing that happened was my contacts, they had all gone, I was about to be physically sick but when I re-synced my Google Account on the phone they all came magically back to life.
I now have Active Sync, Google speech search, Maps and Navigator and a plethora of more important useless applications like a light sabre and Family Guy sound boards.
In future (when 2.2 comes out) I will use Nandroid for backup.
I used Cyanogen Mod and a lot of digging around but the open source guys are very helpful.
Proceed with caution, there are a lot of rumours you can brick your phone quite easily but I am happy with my HTC Magic now for the rest of the year.

James

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anthony
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Posted - 06/10/2010 :  10:06:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What options do you have with ActiveSync? I have noticed that each Android phone kind of has it's own version of it. Some are better than others. One phone I had (Samsung Moment) was using a program called Moxier Mail for it's activesync client. Worked well, but was not "native" to the OS and it felt that way and had its quirks. On the HTC hero I had, the activesync was pretty weak. You had three options on sync-ing mail. Get 2 weeks worth of history, 4 weeks, or ALL of it! And that means ALL of it. I needed more than a month back so I did all of it, and it slowed the phone to a crawl. It would take 10 seconds to display an email. It was also weird about the folders it would show you too.
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 06/10/2010 :  10:11:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Do any of them fit better with Microsoft OCS..?

Tim-

“This too shall pass"
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chamezzzz
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Posted - 06/10/2010 :  11:04:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, no clue on OCS I am afraid.
Active Sync seems very polished.
I can set Mail Size Limit 2KB up to ANY - though not sure I would do that
The Frequency of the Sync - I am currently on 1 Hour, but could set to manual or as items arrive. or 5, 10, 15 mins etc.
Download Past Mail

3 Days
7 Days
14 or 30 days or ALL

Include File Attachment - I can set the size.

I can sort and I can search.

My Application is Work Email for Android - 1.0.0024 (Changelist: 46752)

James
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pretzeldude
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Posted - 06/18/2010 :  12:11:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit pretzeldude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I ordered the HTC Droid Incredible (android 2.1 I think) for Verizon last Saturday. Unfortunately, due to popularity and/or parts shortages, the ship date is sometime around or after July 9th! :( I'll report in on the phone if and when I ever get it...
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pretzeldude
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Posted - 07/12/2010 :  2:22:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit pretzeldude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Update: I just got my HTC Droid Incredible (Droid 2.1 - Verizon) on Friday 7/9/10. So far all I can say is that this phone is simply Awesome! Definetly has exceeded my expectations. This is my 4th PDA/Smartphone and I've been using Windows Mobile smartphones since Palm Treo 700w (Winmo 5.0) and this just blows WinMo away.

@Anthony - here's what I found in the settings re: activesync options:

eMail:

1 - day
3 - days
7 - days
14 - days
30 - days
ALL

Events/Calendar:

2 Weeks
1 Month
3 Months
6 Months
ALL

So far the phone is FAST, very configurable and looks great. Droid App Store seems very good with lots of options. GPS with Google Maps and turn by turn navigation! ;)
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anthony
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Posted - 07/12/2010 :  3:56:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am wanting to get the Sprint EVO right here pretty soon... I am really looking forward to it. Right now I am rolling with a Palm PiXi. A really great phone, but I need more screen size and horsepower. I know the Pre has that, but I am looking for an Android phone as well.
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tomo999
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Posted - 07/13/2010 :  04:26:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really, really, really want the EVO but there is no release date for it in the UK

I upgraded my iPhone 3G to version 4 of the OS, and it runs like a dog now. I am tempted to restore my backup from a couple of weeks ago it is that bad.

Definitely not going with an iPhone4 - So going to wait to see what HTC's next offering is.

Matt.

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anthony
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Posted - 07/13/2010 :  09:46:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My only reservation with the EVO is that it supposedly has terrible battery life...
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pretzeldude
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Posted - 07/13/2010 :  2:35:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit pretzeldude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anthony

My only reservation with the EVO is that it supposedly has terrible battery life...



FTW... It could be true, but I've heard/read that same accusation with every single PDA/Smartphone that I've used. It often comes down to how you use it. They do drain batteries more than feature phones, but the problem is often manageable (tweaks like turning off Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS when not actively using etc...) and outweighs the option of "not getting" the phone.
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anthony
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Posted - 07/13/2010 :  4:29:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
True. I imagine somebody will offer some sort of cover/power booster as well that I could add if needed. Or an extra battery...
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sixdoubleo
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Posted - 07/15/2010 :  12:38:52 PM  Show Profile  Click to see sixdoubleo's MSN Messenger address  Send sixdoubleo a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I've had a Motorola Droid (Droid "Classic" if you will) since November 2009 and can say that it has exceeded my expectations as well.

One recommendation though...pay $10 for Touchdown from Nitrodesk. This is a full-featured Exchange app that blows away the built-in Exchange functionality on the phone. It has just about every option you can think of and gives you quite a bit of flexibility and configuration. On benefit is that it can keep your exchange contacts separate from your "phone" contacts...very important (at least for me) if you're using your personal phone for business.


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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 07/15/2010 :  12:44:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sixdoubleo

On benefit is that it can keep your exchange contacts separate from your "phone" contacts...very important (at least for me) if you're using your personal phone for business.



No Kidding! I have a mess on my CrackBerry...

Tim-

“This too shall pass"
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DennisMCSE
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Posted - 07/15/2010 :  1:42:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit DennisMCSE's Homepage  Look at the Skype address for DennisMCSE  Reply with Quote
I'm looking to ditch my Blackberry. Specially since they still haven't issued an update to get it to sync with Outlook 2010. Drives me crazy manually making updates between the two.

Since everyone is complaining about the new iPhone, started looking at the Android phones and it seems that with Android 2.0, it's making a lot of people think about ditching their iPhones now.


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anthony
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Posted - 07/15/2010 :  8:52:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would NEVER consider an iPhone. This sums up why I will never get an iPhone:

http://youtu.be/FL7yD-0pqZg
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anthony
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Posted - 07/15/2010 :  9:01:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does NitroDesk integrate with the 'native' mail application? On the Samsung Moment phone I was using it had MoxierMail on it and you had to create your own shortcuts to IT on your home screen in order to see new mail alerts - Android did not acknowledge it as a mail application. So it made mail alerts act weird, and many built in functions would attempt to use the native mail app when trying to send mail from them. Kind of like on a Windows box when you use webmail as your primary email, and you click on a mailto: link and it tries to open Outlook Express.

It's kind of hard to explain, but you lose a little bit of "flow" I guess when using the non-native mail application... That the best way I can describe it.

How is your experience with Nitrodesk?
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chamezzzz
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Posted - 07/16/2010 :  01:36:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think you will need it Anthony, see PretzelDudes post.
The latest Android phones come with great built in to Exchange/Email Applications, that Sync and allow you to sort mail.
Regards

James
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sixdoubleo
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Posted - 07/16/2010 :  11:58:07 AM  Show Profile  Click to see sixdoubleo's MSN Messenger address  Send sixdoubleo a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Nitrodesk is its OWN mail application, but it also integrates nicely with the other facilities of the phone.

The anomaly you speak of (not getting notifications) is not an issue on the Android. Touchdown events (new mail, meeting reminder, task reminder, etc) are processed whether Touchdown is running or not as standard Android OS events. It can use your default phone notifications (ring, vibrate, flashing light, etc) or you can define separate notification elements specifically for it. So on mine I have a completely different sound, vibrate style, and LED color when Exchange mail comes in.

It also integrates with contacts and the phone dialer (if you wish) such that if you're reading an email from somebody in exchange, you can click on them and call them, text them, etc. But more importantly (in my case) Exchange can be separate from gmail, pop, and other contacts. That is important for me.

As far as the built-in Exchange mail app, it is severely limited. It only supports one or two scenarios for ActiveSync security. So if you're requiring a PIN, SSL, or specific combinations of security on your company's CAS server, forget about using the built-in app. Check the android forums and you'll see thousands of complaints about this. This is why most people have moved to Touchdown as it works in all scenarios.
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darren20101
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Posted - 01/20/2011 :  04:05:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you value Customer opinions about this, [GO CHECK OUT MY SPAMMY PRODUCT THAT UNFORTUNATELY THE JERK THAT RUNS THIS FORUM REMOVED.<G>]

[some spam I was hoping to raise my Google rank it was deleted, boo hoo]

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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 04/26/2011 :  09:05:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well the jerk that removes spam here just bought a HTC Thunderbolt to replace what is possibly the worst phone I have ever used, the BB Storm.

The new HTC is lightning fast in comparison and with the larger screen I can actually read my email without having to zoom in.

Google maps and find items in your area works great.

I like the front facing camera and being able to use either the Google video chat or Skype video chat which is the reason I selected this model.

Compared to the BB Storm this is awesome. I agree there is an endless list of useless apps. Are their some apps that you would recommend that I check out?

Not a game player per say. Was sort of interested in the GPS for Golf apps but do not want something that will kill my battery. I would rather just pick up the Garmin Range finder for that.

Trying to get the blue tooth headset working since my new (used) truck does not have blue tooth.

Thoughts..?

Tim-

“This too shall pass"
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anthony
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Posted - 04/26/2011 :  09:51:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got an HTC EVO about 6 or 8 months ago. Best phone ever....

I have loads of recomendations...

Games:

- Tank Hero
- Air Traffic Control (My Personal FAV)
- Super Tumble
- Tetris (the one by EA Sports)
- Robo Defense
- Mini Squadron
- X Construction
- Speedx 3d
- PewPew
- Shoot U!
- FatBooth

Business/Fun Apps:

- FlightTrack (awesome if you travel)
- CLapp (Craig's List App)
- IMDb
- Google Shopper (RULES)
- Google Sky Map

Cannot live without Apps:

- SugarSync
- Evernote
- Mobisle Notes (lets you sync documents on Google Apps with it)
- Lookout (Anti-Virus and Remote Location and Wipe)

anthony

There should be only one World's Greatest Dad shirt. And you should have to kill the previous owner to wear it.

Edited by - anthony on 04/26/2011 09:52:30 AM
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pretzeldude
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Posted - 04/26/2011 :  11:35:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit pretzeldude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
+1 for sugarsynch

Amazon Cloud MP3 service is pretty cool too.
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