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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  3:48:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Using Users and Computers and GPMC:
Create an OU
Create a GPO and link to OU
This is a User Configuration GPO

Add users to an OU
do the gpupdate on both client and server
GPO is not in affect?

If I add the same users also to the Security Filter, GPO works?

1. If the GPO is a user configuration GPO, does it make sense to place computers into the OU?
2. Does one always have to specify the security filter as well?

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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  3:52:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hello Douglas... Can you be more specific on exactly what User setting you are trying to deploy? What is the location of the setting in GPMC?

Tim-

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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  4:59:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the reply.

There are too many settings to enumerate.. but I can say that is for testing, if I place a user or users in the OU that the GPO is linked to, and if I also place thsoe same users in the Security Filter it works.

Can one not use security groups for the security filter and also to place in OU?

Thanks ahead of time
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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  6:04:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found according to Marks book that security groups can be used and included in the Security filtering. The only place in question then is use of a security group inside an OU. That is the only place I can then see where it would break

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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  7:03:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have narrowed it down to this.

I can use security groups for Security Filtering just as Mark states in his book.

The problem I have found is when I also use that same security group inside the OU that the GPO is applied.

The policy settings do not get applied when I use a security grup within the OU.

I guess one cannot do that?

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Posted - 06/29/2010 :  07:26:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit Playwell's Homepage  Click to see Playwell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The placement of the group in ADU&C has nothing to do with GPO security filtering.

'People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. '

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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  11:40:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay I am still having the problem. Let me try to explain better.

I have an OU that contains a computer account (Vista). I have a simple GPO linked to that OU.

GPO is User Configuration policy "Hide drives"

Security group TestGPO has 5 user members. The SG and the user's objects are in the Users cotainer. I am using the TestGPO security group in the GPO security filtering.

Desired Result: I want when anyone from that security group logs into that computer, that GPO is applied.

The GPO does not work unless I place the user objects in the OU or if I link the GPO to an OU that contains the users.

Please. Any thoughts or suggestions. I just want the logins on specific computers to recieve "user configuration policy settings.

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wkasdo
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  11:57:46 AM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
> I want when anyone from that security group logs into that computer, that GPO is applied.

Put the computer account in scope of that GPO, and set loopback.
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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  12:51:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now I can see where one can get frustrated with GPO processing.

I do believe your answer is the correct one... ..but for some reason after I added the loopback policy, made sure the computer is in the OU that the GPO is linked with, did an gpupdate, and made sure the users were in the security foltering security group... I logged on but .... settings still not working.

I am still going at it but any additional thoughts would be greatly appreciated

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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  1:07:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well maybe this is why it is still not working???

I just read the entire description of the Loopback policy setting:

"Note: This setting is effective only when both the computer account and the user account are in Windows 2000 domains."


What if the Domain is a 2003 or in my case a 2008 domain?
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  1:37:16 PM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That's just nonsense. 2008 will do just fine.
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  3:17:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Playwell's Homepage  Click to see Playwell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
one hint: Do NOT filter the policy on the local administrators group.
The 'system' account is secretly member of this group, and policies do not apply then.

'People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. '

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wkasdo
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  4:14:34 PM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If it's still not working, try loopback without security filtering first. Also, use replace mode to verify that the setting works. After that play around with merge mode. That's more complicated because other GPO's with conflicting settings may interfere.

Finally, use GPMC to find out which GPO's are applying, and which settings are set by which GPO.
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  4:17:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Also "just in case"... You are running gpupdate from the client and not the server correct..? I had a brain cramp one time and made that mistake..

Tim-

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Douglaslsd
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  8:45:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks all!

Your answers have been perfect and greatly beneficial.

I found my problem. My home test domain has a DFRS problem big time. I am able to get the results as long as the clients are pointed to DC\DNS server that is working properly. (and yeah the company I work for gives out millions of dollars in bonuses to the big people, but cant afford to allow us to have test domains for our big contracts.)

Anyway, I am still having one last issue and it could be my domain as well.

Am I correct in discerning that even when using loopback, can one still use a security group for the security filter? It does not appear to work even with some of my domain corrections.

Thanks again
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wkasdo
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  02:56:38 AM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Filtering should work. Background reading for loopback:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785074(WS.10).aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/231287
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