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MadCow
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  10:22:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lots of Outlook Users in remote sites .... saying they are getting Requesting Data Dialog box. I ran ExBPA and ExTSA on my exchange servers and all is cool except for few little things.

Some of these users have DCs in their site but most of these users have no DC and they are connected through FW to our head office ....on high speed links. Mostly these users Outlook is offline so they have to do a manual send and receive to download messages.

Firewall guys have been upgrading to new FW too.
Hope I did not just answer my own question.

Advise Please.

Thanks,


Sunny
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wkasdo
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  2:14:33 PM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Could be Exchange itself that is slow, although central users should also have the problem in that case. Did you check the disk counters of the stores?
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  3:12:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For the users without a DC in their site I would advice to use Outlook in Cache mode.

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MadCow
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  5:48:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thank you for your response.

The head office users were not having this issue but most the remote users with and without DCs were seeing this dialog box and from some of those sites we could not ping the active exchnage node either by name or IP.

So we failed over to the other node and thats where things got worst ...the fail over was fine for 10 minutes and then the Exchange HTTP Virtual Server Instance broke and it bounced to other node and then back and forth.

Then I called Microsoft and they notice the IsAlive HTTP Error with event ID 1005 and they applied a hotfix for this issue and then they further found out that the Symantec Mail Security Cluster Resource was also causing interference .....so called Symantec to look into that ....


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MadCow
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Posted - 11/12/2008 :  2:00:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today I am getting the Requesting Data Box again for our OL2002 users.

I ran the ExTroubleshooting assistance and it tells me that my Disk is a bottle neck. Its a SAN drive all the Exchange DB and Trans logs sit on it. I do not have any more drive space to relocate the logs to it.

The tool shows me the following....

The ratio of Reads I/Os to Writes I/Os on drive R: was 1.67. Generally, this ratio should be less than 0.10; a higher ratio indicates that this disk is used for something other than writing to the transaction log files. For best performance, the log drive should be dedicated for transaction log files

Transaction Log Read latency is high..
Transaction log disk: The average value for '\LogicalDisk(R:)\Avg. Disk sec/Read' should be less than 0.005 (5 ms). The measured value is 0.006 (6 ms).

Also screams about page file location ... it is on C:
Page file drive: The average value for '\LogicalDisk(C:)\Avg. Disk sec/Write' should be less than 0.01 (10 ms). The measured value is 0.01 (10 ms).
Advise Please.

Thank you


Sunny
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Edited by - MadCow on 11/12/2008 2:03:33 PM
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wkasdo
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Posted - 11/12/2008 :  4:11:08 PM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Latency values seem OK. Not great, but OK.

> The ratio of Reads I/Os to Writes I/Os on drive R: was 1.67.

Good point. Is that because you have the SG and its logs on the same drive? Not a great idea, as I'm sure you know.

Did you look at the counter \MSExchangeIS\RPC Averaged Latency already? It is a measure for the RPC response that users see. It should be below 50 ms on average. Try correlating it with the disk counters.
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MadCow
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Posted - 11/13/2008 :  07:30:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your response.

Yes, unluckily we have Logs and SG on the same Drive: R.

When we planned this installation I brought this into our Managers attention but he said I have no budget plus not everybody does that. He understands that its a best practise to have them on seperate drive.

I will check out the \MSExchangeIS\RPC Averaged Latency.

I also turned off symantec mail security for now.


It gets better and better ....I looked windows updates and it tells me that I have 2 years old driver for our QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter and thats the storage driver. Manager is bit shaky on installing this driver.


Sunny
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Edited by - MadCow on 11/13/2008 07:56:18 AM
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MadCow
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Posted - 11/13/2008 :  09:09:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

ok I checked the RPC Average Latency ...it is fine.

But ...

RPC Operations/Sec are through the roof and so is RPC Packets/Sec.

Its appears as if some Outlook Clients may be causing this issue.
We have Blackerry Users whose BB sync with their MBX but through Wireless. Recently we have added BB Software Desktop Clients for few users ..hmmm.



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