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JoeMilner2003
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 Posted - 10/16/2009 : 11:51:16 AM
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Hello there, I haev 4 CCTV setup at one of my stores and trying to setup a VPN from home to Store Vista Laptops for secure viewing.
The 4 CCTV's are running now on a viewer at the store and i have a wireless router there with minimal range.
is VPN way to go and how would i set it up?
thnx for ur help!
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cj_berlin
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 12:03:49 PM
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Hi Joe and welcome to the Forum,
what model is your router at the store? Chances are it has some VPN capability.
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 12:17:20 PM
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Not trying to be funny, but is it a porn store? Why do you need a secure connection to view the videos? When you say secure connection that conjures-up encryption which requires additional processing power, something you might not need for your application.
OK now to answer your question.
There are many ways to do thees. The simplest and easiest to set-up is a LinkSys VPN router. Place a RV042, RV082 or BEFVP41 at the store and at home. Create an encrypted tunnel from home to store. Shouldn't take you more then 15 minutes to get set-up. If you are on the road you can use software on your computer to establish a secure connection to the store's VPN router. (Again, not that difficult.)
By the way what's the make/model of the CCTV system and cameras you are using? I set up something similar with an AirCard to monitor construction sites.
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 2:49:46 PM
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Thanx for the replies.
I make Ice cream and i have 3 stores.
I have had malicious activities in the past.
I have an XP Pro with SP3 (could be the host)
and a Win Vista Home Premium ( could be client)
The router is a Netgear N router, Range max Next Wireless
model number could be WNR834B V2
Is a secure VPN do able on these OS' or should i get a book to do this? |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 2:59:58 PM
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Joe,
Just looked the WNR834B has no VPN capability. You could buy a book and a year from now you might understand it. Based on what you've told me get 2 - BEFVP41 and set up a tunnel between them. (You can find them on eBay for $5-$20.) Or get 2 RV042, $100 on eBay.
The documentation is very straight forward and you'll be all set.
Doug
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:02:36 PM
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Thnx for the incredibly fast response Douggg!
What do u think about a 3rd party site called
www.PublicVPN.com that helps u setup hacker proof VPN's for a 69 dollar annual fee? |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:12:15 PM
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This is for something else. As I read it this would be for you to be in a hotel/coffee shop and want to connect to your office. I didn't think that's what you wanted to do.
Not sure you need a secured/encrypted VPN either. All you want to do is watch people buy ice cream, right? Does it really need to be encrypted?
Just trying to make this as easy as possible for you. I would still recomend going with the LinkSys and it's a one time buy.
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:19:25 PM
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Ok Let me put it this way...I travel to Europe 2x a month for various contracts of products that go into my ice creams.
Would I be able to view my stores from another country, or another USA state? |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:25:16 PM
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Oh, now I get it.
Get one of the Linksys VPNs for the store and on the computer you take with you, use MSFT's VPN clinet software.
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:39:48 PM
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Thnx a lot Douggg :)
This would be my first VPN.
I have my ip address in each store.
What happens when the Client software connects to the VPN router at each store?
Will the client software take me into the desktop of the host, automatically? |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 3:54:30 PM
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You haven't told me what your CCTV system or how you connect. The one I use for my construction company is very simple but we have two types/generations. One has a console where upto 16 cameras can connect. This one streams video and all that's needed is the IP address of the job site. (In your case would be store.)
The other type each camera has an IP address and the clinet has an icon for each camera and they just click on it.
Do your cameras support IP-TV video streaming? Some cameras require you to purchase a vidoe streaming add on.
What are describing is exactly what the construction company wanted the only difference is you have a dedicated Internet connectiosn where as the costruction company doesn't have a building yet and has to go wireless or cellular data.
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 4:04:22 PM
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| Ok thnx a lot...i'll look into this with the tech that installed the cams. |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 4:40:24 PM
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Did the tech tell you the video could be streamed from the camera? And if so, do you need an add on device?
My construction clinet purchased 2 different CC-TV systems from 2 different vendors each vendor told them they could use their computers to see the images. First one didn't tell them until after the install they had to buy an IP streaming box for $3,000 more, they paid and the video like the videos from the moon. The secound system the guy told them they had to buy a video multiplexer but they hadn't created the software for the computer. I came in and for about $100-$200 per site we were done.
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Doug G
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 7:37:28 PM
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Didn't your security camera dvr come with remote pc viewer software? I have clients with 4-10 cameras, and their dvr and associated dvr viewer program handled remote viewing without a vpn, and I believe it encrypted the video transferred to the remote site.
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 11:57:23 PM
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| The system I put in does. The guys selling the security cameras don't understand computers/Internet. Kind of link phone guys... They think they know. they sell it and then can't figure out how to make it work 'cause they sold the wrong equipment in the first place. |
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RichNRockville
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Posted - 10/17/2009 : 05:41:13 AM
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There are free VPN's that you can try. I use Hamachi which works for me to take a look at each of
my clients servers and friends computers. I use UltraVNC for the desktop connection.
You can try it by downloading the hamachi program and installing it on one of your shop computers where
the screen shows the cameras. Then also install it on your home computer and VNC on both computers.
create a network via the Hamachi program and both systems are now connected via a VPN where you can
then run VNC on your local machine, connecting to your shop computer and whatever they see on the
screen, you should also. It works whether you have a static IP or not. I have used it for over 5
years and have not had any problems. Hamachi installs as a system service as does VNC.
Hamachi is a logmein program. http://logmein.com will get you
started.
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/17/2009 : 09:47:22 AM
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Rick, Great idea but if he has IP cameras like one of my clinets there's nothing to VNC into. In the past I've tried using VNC with video and it hasn't worked. Have you recently tried it with video?
Thanks,
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RichNRockville
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 05:54:20 AM
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I have a client with a local camera that is displayed on the desktop screen of a workstation. I have VNC'd into the
machine and the video (which is not hd) shows ok. Not great but as long as the refresh rate is set low enough
it is no problem.
But, your correct most IP cameras only work on the local workstation. Unless you have a static IP for the camera
and then Most camera's will let you setup userid's and passwords to view via a browser over the internet.
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JoeMilner2003
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 8:01:13 PM
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thnx for all the responses and help!
Unfort at this time, we would like to keep our current "non compatible with VPN routers"
How would i then connect from a remote computer to the host client's desktop without a VPN?
Should this format work for the URL on the remote client?
http://ipaddress:portnumber
My host WinXP has a DRV viewer with a strong password to see all 4 CCTV's
and the Current router does allow streaming video.
thnx for ur time. |
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Douggg
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 10:40:23 AM
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| Joe you could use a VPN with existing router, but for viewing cameras at your stores I see no reason to encrypt the video using a VPN. What your asking for is very simple. You are correct on your client machine type http://ipaddress of the store. In the router in the store set-up port forwarding to the IP address of the WinXP computer and your in business. |
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smeogul
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 8:54:16 PM
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no reason to encrypt via vpn but you could easily use ssl
grab selfssl from the iis resource kit,
run it on the xp box that hosts the camera software/site, tada, you have a certificate that I'm positive you can trust
and forward port 443 from the router.
You could also set up a vpn on the xp box and your laptop.
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/xp_vpn_server.htm
(I binged :) )
(so does it make it better if its the website that goes BING? sorry, I have a Monty Python relapse every time I go there... ok, I'm done, I'll just silly walk outta here :) ) |
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What info do i need to collect to setup a VPN?
