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chamezzzz
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  5:04:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/android/android-143239

Nice article.

I honestly believe the Samsung Galaxy Nexus is the best phone I have ever owned.

The Galaxy SIII is out in Europe this week.

Google IO12 this month.
Rumours abound that the Galaxy Nexus tablet will be released.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/256519/google_nexus_7_tablet_shows_up_on_benchmark_site.html

New chromebooks and chromebox announced yesterday.
I'm not so sold on these but fun none the less.
http://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/chrome/devices/chromebooks.html
http://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/chrome/devices/chromebox.html

Nice review here
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/29/3048298/chromebook-chromebox-chrome-os-review-2012

James

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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  5:42:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I honestly believe the HTC Thunderbolt is the WORST phone I have ever owned.

Just opened the box on my new Nextel 900 WIN Phone. I will be comparing notes to my wife's Samsung Galaxy II which has been pretty awesome.

I offered to send my HTC to Mark free of charge, but honestly I could do that to a friend... <g>

Tim-

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Pesos
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  6:18:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you mean Lumia 900? Really ooking forward to playing with one of those.

Haven't seen a droid phone that can come close to the 4S yet. They are all either clunky, unresponsive, dead before I can even hardly play with them, or all of the above. And absolutely no standardization across the models/oems so supporting them has been a nightmare. Some people can't get email synching without touchdown. Some people can't with touchdown. Some people can't regardless of touchdown. Ridiculous mess. As much as I can't stand certain things about Apple, we don't recommend anything but to our clients when it comes to smartphones. Most people are too scared/dumb/busy to deal with the mess that is Android. I hope that changes because I don't want Apple to have too much of a lock on things.

-Wes
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  6:32:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
"And absolutely no standardization across the models/oems so supporting them has been a nightmare." Agree 100% !!

yes Nokia Lumia 900 So far it is very nice...

Tim-

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straffin
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  8:30:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit straffin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've got the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and I'm certain that part of the reason that I love it so and have had such a good experience with it is that it's a "Google phone" rather than just an "Android phone". Figure it's as close to what Google intended Android to be as you can get...
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  9:03:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by straffin

I've got the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and I'm certain that part of the reason that I love it so and have had such a good experience with it is that it's a "Google phone" rather than just an "Android phone". Figure it's as close to what Google intended Android to be as you can get...



Good point John... As I have said my HTC HELL should not be a reflection for ALL DROIDS but I did see the ugly side of Verizon and after dropping a LOT of money for 2 iPads for the family (only to be shilled out for every damned option) I just want something that works, easy to use, and will never say again while I am setting it down on the coffee table "Say a command!"...


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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  9:09:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh and by the way HERE is your freedom to download anything without anyone to blame

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/30/powerful-flame-cyberweapon-tied-to-powerfully-angry-birds/

YES it's FOX but it is what it is. If you cannot get past the messenger than I suggest you work for APPLE...


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chamezzzz
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  07:03:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tim,
Angry birds is available on the Apple Store.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/angry-birds-free/id409807569?mt=8
What point are you making?

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James
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  09:56:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I guess the point I was attempting to make is that Apple is supposed to be so restrictive because they are protecting their users. Which is of course not true, and if you believe they care about all their users you are delusional.

But as a society that wants everything wide open, we cannot take any responsibility when WE download crap. We instantly blame Microsoft for not protecting us better or Apple or whomever. But moments later we are downloading more crap.

I guess I am just fed up with the hypocrisy of it all.

My main gripe about DROID is no standardization across the models.


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jadgate
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  3:37:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with all the comments made here about Android (and I own an Android phone - its a behind the cutting edge and times LG Optimus that runs on 3g)

For a company of any size, choosing Android as the supported mobile device is a support nightmare Tower of Babel due to OS version proliferation. I'm reminded of the old joke about Unix: there are 10 kinds of people in this world: those who understand Unix and those who don't.

I think that IOS OS phones are just one large maleware infection away from loosing the free pass they currently have to claim they are the "most" secure phone behind BBs.

If anyone here reads Consumer Reports, they just came out with a positive review of the Lumia 900. Its a shame that its probably too late for them to re-capture any market share.

http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2012/05/nokia-lumia-900-is-a-superior-windows-phone-audio.html

Jim

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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  3:51:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit JSCLMEDAVE's Homepage  Click to see JSCLMEDAVE's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
LOVE my Lumia Phone! Fast!! Battery has lasted a full two days. Lync Mobile works great! Fantastic screen resolution. Linked up with my Blu-Tooth headset in seconds without any hassle.

I just need to re-learn how to use a cell phone and find out where everything is at.

Tim-

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chamezzzz
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  4:06:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"choosing Android as the supported mobile device is a support nightmare Tower of Babel due to OS version proliferation"

If you choose the wrong phone from the wrong provider - then yes.

If you give all your users stock Galaxy range or high end Samsung SIII - and they all have the same, then I would argue its like managing any other phone.

That they can tether their laptops and connect to the internet, that they can access their files without relying on iTunes, that the charger is simply micro USB or that Google Navigation and Maps is pretty damn good when you are lost are all very good selling points for the road warriors out there.

James
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  5:02:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit wobble_wobble's Homepage  Look at the Skype address for wobble_wobble  Reply with Quote
Managing any mobiles devices, in an environment where BYOD is common place is a nightmare.

What people assume is easy to manage, are devices they are familiar with. If you had ZXYO1 and used it for 6 months then supporting it is easy, same with TyUY32, its easy.
The problem is not the email app is bad, or the camera is shoddy, look at the market place for the device you are supporting. If its cheap, it will not be normal support, the thing may be marketed as a texting/ facebook phone. If its more expensice, expect it to be simple to support. Remember the difference a few years ago between a "Business Phone" and a "market phone" was the changeable covers on the market phones.
iPhones, Nokia Windows phones, Google Android phones are high end, EXPENSIVE phones, so they have money for the development.
The cheaper models...
I bought an Android for my wife to replace the multiple iPhone that have been swallowed by the flawed design package of Apple for a few euros. It a heavily modified Android, got mail on it, got her contacts onto it (ooohhhhh gmail store them, and will transfer them to a phone, with a simple sign on, and back it up and restore it, and....)

she now happily has facebook and god knows what else on it.

I don't have nor will I buy an iPhone - yet I've been expected to support it.
I didn't have an iPad, yet was sent to site to configure one 2 months before they hit Europe.
Same can be said about Blackberry, Nokia, Samsung, bla bla bla.

We can support Windows/ Linux/ and a few other bits - why? Because if all else fails a PC is so damn complex we can blame the printer driver.
On a phone...and remember these are phones...they do a few things; receive messages, take pictures, play sounds and sometimes make calls. After that its an add-an, and when something as obvious as the email doesn't work the end user notices and shouts, at you. You can't ask them why they bought a cheap assed phone, they are the customer, unless you know them really well.

Now you want tough...
Windows phone, that got started in German and sent to Ireland, as models not available in English speaking countries, where the software localisation has been done badly, so you have to sit with the crankiest but best technical english speaker beside you as you attempt to get the damn thing talking to a broken SBS server on dodgy internet.

I need a drink!


Joe

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