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anthony
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 Posted - 07/28/2012 : 9:21:09 PM
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Lets say I am looking doing setting up Hyper-V Replicas to my branch office 60 miles north. Is there a way to "seed" the replica at the remote site so I don't have to use the internet bandwidth to push 3TB across it?
Like create the replica on the local LAN, then take one side to the branch office and re-connect it?
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Jazzy
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Mark Minasi
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Posted - 07/29/2012 : 10:05:53 AM
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| 2012 makes it REALLY easy to do this. |
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anthony
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Posted - 07/29/2012 : 1:37:54 PM
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| I am trying to build a case for 2012 to my Director of IT for our consolidation project. He is convinced that since we are only P2V-ing about 12 servers (which is all of them) that XEN is the way to go since it's free. Nothing is free right? So thanks for the ammo... |
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Jazzy
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Posted - 07/29/2012 : 2:00:37 PM
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| Hyper-V is free too, but provides way more capabilities. By the way, what is your excuse for not running a Server 2012 VM on your computer or notebook? :) No serious, download the VHD or ISO and try to setup a small proof of concept lab. When you can click around throug the wizards and understand the capabilities better. |
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Pesos
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Posted - 07/29/2012 : 9:34:40 PM
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Hyper-V server is free, as Jetze points out. So as far as having a migration path goes, assuming you guys are going to upgrade any of those servers to 2012 at any point in the future (if you don't already have software assurance) then you'd be better off using the free Hyper-V server for now, since those VMs can be immediately transferred over to a full blown server 2012 host if and when your licensing situation makes that feasible. And in the meantime you haven't lost anything as the free Hyper-V server is just as feature-rich and high-performing as Xen if not more so...
Also, Hyper-V isn't going anywhere. Xen on the other hand... Well let's just say while I doubt it will disappear any time soon, Citrix is notorious for "putting their focus elsewhere" - just ask any of us still using Xenapp... |
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anthony
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Posted - 07/31/2012 : 9:01:41 PM
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| So what CAN'T I do with the free version? Other than no GUI, what other limitations are on it? Can it be on a domain? Is there a limit on guests (that are licensed)? |
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Pesos
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Posted - 07/31/2012 : 9:14:46 PM
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| You don't get a GUI. Domain join, clustering, replica etc. all good to go (replica is 2012 of course) |
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Edited by - Pesos on 07/31/2012 9:18:26 PM |
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joe_elway
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 05:20:59 AM
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Hyper-V Server 2012 has all the technical features of the paid or versions of Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V, minus the GUI. It has zero free virtualisation rights. If you are intending to run Windows Server VMs on the host then you license the host, never the VMs: http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=13090 You're buying the same Windows Server licensing no matter what virtualisation you use; that's why Hyper-V is free. I'm in the licensing sales biz and my boss dislikes me spending time on Hyper-V because we make exactly ZERO Euros on it. The customer could be running Honest Bob's Hypervisor and we'd make the same money on Server licensing.
Therefore there are rare circumstances where it makes financial sense to use Hyper-V Server: Linux guests only, VDI, and maybe you licensed a host/VMs for W2008 R2 OEM and want the new Hyper-V but don't want to upgrade the guest OSs in the VMs. |
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Edited by - joe_elway on 08/01/2012 05:22:41 AM |
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anthony
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 6:32:46 PM
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| So to start, I need to P2V like 12 servers to Hyper-V and they are all non-oem licenses (paid for). I could go to the free one, then as we upgrade to 2012 guests - THEN I would need to upgrade to actual PAID versions of 2012 (which would allow me to run the GUI underneath on the host. |
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Pesos
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 6:37:41 PM
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| Sounds like a plan. Go forth and Hypervy. |
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NMDANGE
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 09:21:43 AM
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| Just because you need to license the VMs, it doesn't mean you can't run the free Hyper-V as opposed to a full Windows install as the host. We have datacenter licensing but I still use the free Hyper-V because it is as minimal as you can get, so less patching to worry about. |
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