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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  4:06:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The word is finally out: http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-changes-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx

Forefront TMG and FPE (as wel as the SharePoint and OCS products) will be discontinued. Very sad, I really liked ISA/TMG since ISA 2004. Interesting news is that UAG and FIM are here to stay and these prodcuts will be actively developed.

Jetze Mellema

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2004? Really? Was really clunky and Microsoft's answer (at that time 2009) was "well go and upgrade".

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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  4:25:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well, I was forced to work with ISA 2000 at the time and thought that ISA 2004 was a great improvement. ISA 2004 had a pretty good interface and made it very easy to work with firewall rules.

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So what do you do the Reverse Proxy on Lync with?

Excuse my sarcasm, but is the new solution more expensive?

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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  4:31:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Squid? Apache? :)

Jetze Mellema

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Edited by - Jazzy on 09/12/2012 4:31:46 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazzy

Squid? Apache? :)



Seriously.....

Maybe they re-wrote the inbound rp on Lync 2013...

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JamesNT
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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  8:58:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit JamesNT's Homepage  Click to see JamesNT's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Glad I already switched to Juniper.

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Jazzy
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quote:
Originally posted by wobble_wobble

quote:
Originally posted by Jazzy

Squid? Apache? :)



Seriously.....

Maybe they re-wrote the inbound rp on Lync 2013...


Kind of seriously, yes. Actually there's no hard requirement to use TMG or ISA for Lync. Any reverse proxy will do. People are using alternatives like Apache, Squid or even Juniper today too. Of course these alternatives lack a user friendly GUI, proper AD integration and many other features that TMG has.

Note how they write the Lync RP documentation and mention TMG just as one of the possible options: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398069.aspx

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I'd say UAG is the Microsoft tool for reverse proxy

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Jazzy
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I understand and technically that makes a lot of sense, especially from an Exchange point of view. Unfortunately UAG is way more expensive than TMG is/was. A single CPU license for TMG costs $ 1500 and no CAL licenses are needed. A UAG license is more than $6000 and requires a CAL ($ 15) for each user or device too.

Then again, TMG is currently still supported so I would still choose it for Exchange deployments. At the time it goes EOL customer can review it's options, which will be probably very different than they are now.

Jetze Mellema

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Edited by - Jazzy on 09/13/2012 07:06:45 AM
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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  10:42:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jazzy

Then again, TMG is currently still supported so I would still choose it for Exchange deployments. At the time it goes EOL customer can review it's options, which will be probably very different than they are now.


Of course when I wrote this I didn't realize you can no longer buy TMG after November 30 2012!

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JamesNT
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Posted - 09/16/2012 :  8:50:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit JamesNT's Homepage  Click to see JamesNT's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Seriously, what in the world makes reverse proxy so special for Exchange?

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Posted - 09/17/2012 :  05:20:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Playwell's Homepage  Click to see Playwell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
In one word: Forms

Authentication takes place on TMG, and not on the Exchange environment. It's the first step in sanitizing your environment.
And.. you could use the TMG authentication token for more then Exchange, for example CRM, sharepoint and RDS.

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