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Jazzy
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 4:22:29 PM
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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 4:25:51 PM
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| Well, I was forced to work with ISA 2000 at the time and thought that ISA 2004 was a great improvement. ISA 2004 had a pretty good interface and made it very easy to work with firewall rules. |
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wobble_wobble
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 4:27:37 PM
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So what do you do the Reverse Proxy on Lync with?
Excuse my sarcasm, but is the new solution more expensive? |
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Jazzy
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wobble_wobble
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 4:59:19 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Jazzy
Squid? Apache? :)
Seriously.....
Maybe they re-wrote the inbound rp on Lync 2013... |
Joe
After everything that has happened during the month of Jan 07, I do believe that pigs fly backwards!
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JamesNT
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 8:58:02 PM
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Glad I already switched to Juniper.
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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/13/2012 : 01:28:39 AM
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quote: Originally posted by wobble_wobble
quote: Originally posted by Jazzy
Squid? Apache? :)
Seriously.....
Maybe they re-wrote the inbound rp on Lync 2013...
Kind of seriously, yes. Actually there's no hard requirement to use TMG or ISA for Lync. Any reverse proxy will do. People are using alternatives like Apache, Squid or even Juniper today too. Of course these alternatives lack a user friendly GUI, proper AD integration and many other features that TMG has.
Note how they write the Lync RP documentation and mention TMG just as one of the possible options: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398069.aspx |
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Playwell
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Posted - 09/13/2012 : 06:15:19 AM
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| I'd say UAG is the Microsoft tool for reverse proxy |
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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/13/2012 : 06:25:19 AM
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I understand and technically that makes a lot of sense, especially from an Exchange point of view. Unfortunately UAG is way more expensive than TMG is/was. A single CPU license for TMG costs $ 1500 and no CAL licenses are needed. A UAG license is more than $6000 and requires a CAL ($ 15) for each user or device too.
Then again, TMG is currently still supported so I would still choose it for Exchange deployments. At the time it goes EOL customer can review it's options, which will be probably very different than they are now. |
Jetze Mellema
Exchange specialist Former MVP (2005-2012) My blog: http://jetzemellema.blogspot.com (Dutch) My company: http://www.imara-ict.nl/ |
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Jazzy
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Posted - 09/13/2012 : 10:42:44 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Jazzy
Then again, TMG is currently still supported so I would still choose it for Exchange deployments. At the time it goes EOL customer can review it's options, which will be probably very different than they are now.
Of course when I wrote this I didn't realize you can no longer buy TMG after November 30 2012! |
Jetze Mellema
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JamesNT
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Posted - 09/16/2012 : 8:50:15 PM
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Seriously, what in the world makes reverse proxy so special for Exchange?
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Playwell
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Posted - 09/17/2012 : 05:20:23 AM
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In one word: Forms
Authentication takes place on TMG, and not on the Exchange environment. It's the first step in sanitizing your environment. And.. you could use the TMG authentication token for more then Exchange, for example CRM, sharepoint and RDS. |
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