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Pesos
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Posted - 11/23/2012 :  1:07:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.winbeta.org/news/500-days-left-until-windows-xp-end-support-will-organizations-upgrade-time

-Wes

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Posted - 11/25/2012 :  4:44:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Leave it to MS to abandon 40.7% of their users. I bet they are they are the majority of the 47% that Willard Mitt Romney mentioned. Yes, Willard is his real name.

I can hear Bill Gates now. 40.7% of the users are going to vote for XP no matter what I do. I can't worry about those people........

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Posted - 11/25/2012 :  4:46:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmm 14 years is a pretty good run for an OS... Can you imagine Apple supporting anything for 14 years? They usually drop support after 1.4 :-)

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Posted - 11/25/2012 :  5:02:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only thing I know about Apple is that I should have bought their stock instead of IBM. No matter what Apple did, MS should continue support when almost half their customers still use the product. Of course, they know that non support will force users to purchase Windows 7. It's strictly a book decision. MS owes the public, for Vista.

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Posted - 11/28/2012 :  12:21:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Calling the bullcr@p card on you about you only knowing about the stock for Apple, I seen you using that Mac at the last Minasi conference... My guess is you have some Mac skillz as a user.

*POKE* *POKE*... Filthy Mac users... LOL

Chris

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Jack Handy quotes (American Writer and cast member of Saturday Night Live from 1991-2003. Famous for his Deep Thoughts comedy sketches.)
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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  08:15:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit netmarcos's Homepage  Click to see netmarcos's MSN Messenger address  Look at the Skype address for netmarcos  Send netmarcos a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ending support for a 14 year old OS does not force anyone to uninstall it, just turns the responsibility to maintain it over to the user. Very few non-edible products are still in the marketplace, in their original form, 14 years after their introduction and even fewer are still supported by their manufacturer. Try getting upgrades and fixes on that 1998 Toyota from the dealer - for free. Face it, Microsoft is the business of making money; they have chosen the computer industry as their means to that end. You expect Microsoft to continue to develop for and patch XP to keep it up to date with the ever changing Internet threat landscape. That is akin to asking Toyota to provide a fix to your old Corolla's radio so you can listen to HD stations.

The notion that Microsoft somehow owes it to its customers to continue to support XP is nuts. If, however, in their analysis of the marketplace, there is a clear financial benefit to do so, I am sure that they would. Absent that benefit, it is irresponsible and a direct violation of their fiduciary responsibility to their investors and/or employees to do it.

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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  09:22:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it weren't for the fact that almost half of their customers still use XP,I would not have commented. Sooner or later, everyone will move to Windows 7. They just want it to be sooner.

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I still don't get why you think that the installed customer base is relevant to Microsoft's calculus. If I still want my NT3.51 and Windows for Workgroups, no one is stopping me. Same goes for XP. Microsoft's ending support is just that. No future development. If you want to freeze you home PC or your entire enterprise desktop environment on XP, go for it. Just do not expect Microsoft or anyone else to hold you hand while you do. Your risk. Your call.

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Edited by - netmarcos on 11/29/2012 10:11:44 AM
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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  1:18:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have Windows 7 too & I can do fine with XP, without their support but there are many people who can't afford to upgrade & still could use the support. It would be a nice gesture for it to be there.

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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  1:34:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's been there for 14 years... You have to let it go at some point. I think Microsoft has been more than fair WRT XP.

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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  1:37:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit netmarcos's Homepage  Click to see netmarcos's MSN Messenger address  Look at the Skype address for netmarcos  Send netmarcos a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by don2007

...but there are many people who can't afford to upgrade & still could use the support. It would be a nice gesture for it to be there.


Oh the HUMANITY! Sorry, that's why guys & gals like us start little IT companies and offer support for our neighbors & friends. So tell me, how many of these poor people even know how to use Windows Update?

The only ones with any legitimate stake in this are the large enterprise customers with huge installed bases of XP desktops, but even they should have been preparing for this eventuality for a decade or more.

I have less sympathy for this argument each time I revisit it.

I'm out.

Mark M. Webster

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Pesos
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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  1:40:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Indeed. Microsoft even created a whole separate OS (thin client version of win7) for older machines at gigantic corps/gov't/edu etc

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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  11:26:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm. Only large enterprise customers count? Everyone counts.

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Posted - 11/29/2012 :  11:30:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
kumbaya my lord, kumbaya...

-Wes
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